fyi Zipit Wireless device

Giovanni pino.otto at gmail.com
Fri Dec 11 14:16:26 EST 2009


I agree with Kristoffer.

Best regards,
Giovanni


On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Kristoffer Ericson <
kristoffer.ericson at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:28:07 -0500
> Wolfgang Spraul <wolfgang at sharism.cc> wrote:
>
> > Ron,
> >
> > > personal opinion, and (I realize) not politically correct:
> > > until we have WiFi for Nanonote, it will be have a very limited market
> >
> > In this case it's not only politically incorrect (thanks for that!), but
> > also wrong :-)
> > (I know you are impatient and want us to be successful!)
> >
> > A device can sell if it is _EASY TO USE_.
> > That's all. Trust me.
> > The market of plain simple electronic dictionaries is way over 10 million
> per
> > year in China alone, it might be close to 50 million or more worldwide.
> > Of course these devices are cheaper, but simply saying "will have a very
> limited
> > market" is wrong. Until we have a usable software image, it will have a
> limited
> > market.
>
> Just saying my thoughts on this. From my experience internal wifi or not
> makes
> little difference for the users. Its alot more important to have choices
> than features embedded.
> The more choice the more users.
>
> people wanting wifi will buy an sdio wifi card and use that, others will
> not.
> Better to offer a product that can scale with additional fiddling than
> something
> thats already full with features (draining power/costing/...) wether or not
> you want them or not.
>
> Keeping a hardware minimal but with extension possibilities is more
> important than providing a product with everything by default. That way
> you can keep the software optimal for the "vanilla" configuration and
> anyone
> wanting to extend can do so themselves (or download images).
>
> Keeping the standard software useful and yet simple will ensure the
> majority of users. Keeping the hardware open for extensions (USB/SDIO)
> will grab the more advanced users.
>
> So in short, I believe the nanonote is perfect for that market.
> Cheap and open device that got extension possibility.
>
> >
> > Think about it this way - if software and free included content on the
> Ben
> > would be as good as theoretically imaginable, could it be a kick-ass
> device?
> > Of course it could! And we are light years away from that right now.
> > Adding Wi-Fi would add a _LOT_ of complexity, to the hardware design
> (antenna),
> > software on the device (connection manager, power management), price.
> VoIP is
> > hard, suspend modes and incoming calls are hard. Closed firmware.
> > etc. etc. I have done all this.
> >
> > Compare with 2 examples in the market:
> > Our friends from the German e-book device txtr just decided to remove
> wi-fi at
> > the last minute. The geeks hate them now, but as a business they may have
> made
> > the right decision to survive.
> > The Openmoko Wikireader not only has no Wi-Fi, but they even kept out the
> USB
> > connector! Take that as an example of leadership. And it is selling. I
> hope
> > they can make a lot of progress on the software, then the sky is the
> limit.
> >
> > So anyway, we have our plate full with the Ben NanoNote as it is :-)
> > http://wiki.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Software_Wishlist
> >
> > Wolfgang
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 09:13:32AM -0800, Ron K. Jeffries wrote:
> > > [fyi]
> > > the Zipit2 wireless device is in roughly the same space
> > > at Ben Nanonote, but has 802.11g wifi. Main marketing
> > > target originally was as an instant messaging device for kids.
> > >
> > > This puppy was born before the age of Twitter and
> > > http://identi.ca ;) I'd love to have a wireless nanonote on my
> > > desk as a dedicated identi.ca/Twitter client. Sweet!
> > >
> > > personal opinion, and (I realize) not politically correct:
> > > until we have WiFi for Nanonote, it will be have
> > > a very limited market. Once it has WiFi, we could
> > > blow the doors off.
> > >
> > > overview
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zipit_Wireless_Messenger_(Z2)<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zipit_Wireless_Messenger_%28Z2%29>
> > >
> > > interesting background article
> > >
> http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Linux-IM-pad-beefs-up-invites-hacking/
> > >
> > > use case as a classroom device to administer tests
> > >
> http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/Linux-For-Devices-Articles/Device-profile-LearningSoft-Indigo-assessment-system/
> > >
> > > earlier b&w Zipit as a web server
> > > http://va3uxb.dynip.com/
> > > ---
> > > Ron K. Jeffries
> > > http://blog.eronj.com
> >
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