hi. Could I buy a prototype of some upcoming hardware of (Openmoko) ? Or, borrow 2 month , at now hardware version ? I am testing the arm kernel. Thank you.

Adam Wang adam at qi-hardware.com
Thu Jul 23 22:07:07 EDT 2009

Xiangfu Liu wrote:
> Hi Deng
> deng_ya_nuo wrote:
>> Dear Wolfgang,
>>      I am glad to hear that. But I am sad at the same time, for my poor English.
>> I doubt whether we can talk.
> your English is good.
>>      My AES chip was tapout on July 5.
>> I think I could modify it into FPGA with SPI protocol and contribute it.
>> But I don't know whether it fit the GPL.
>>     In 2005, I was hired by a factory to make the chip with 2 MIPS cpu inside,
>> together with some IP core on the bus. Later, my friends went to there
>> and work togther.
>> Mr. Peng write the linux kernel for one MIPS core, Mr. Gong write the
>> uC-OS for another core,
>> Mr. Liu write the bootloader and SD driver, Mr. Liu(2) write the web
>> application, and I write the IP cores.
> can you write the Chinese name and email to us.
> then we can easy to send email to each other. maybe they also can
> subscribe the mailing list. then we can easy to communicate.
>> The chip tapout on June, 2006 and return on Sep. The chip succeeded
>> but the market failed.
>> The group disbanded on 2008. I went back to Xi'An, two go to HongKong,
>> one in ShengZhen, and one in GuangZhou.
>> We talk by internet and want to do something. We all think the 3G is a
>> good change.
Hi Deng,

Yes, like your this principle same as this web.
I think you probably very know this or just introduce this one to you 
"OpenRISC" project.
If you knew already it that will be having great help in the future.
>> No enoughe money support us to make another chip, but we can use the
>> chips from market.
>> So after my chip taped out, I began to search for the chips to
>> construct the 3G mobile, and I found the openmoko yesternight.
>> I thought it's a good start. My friends aggreed to me after taking a loop on it.
>>     We don't know what the GPL is, in fact, for we are not the lawyer.
>> We just know we snatch the codes from the internet and contribute back
>> to the internet.
>> The market of China's 3G is big enougth for all of us, so no necessary
>> for us to make our codes private.
>> So they agree to public their codes under GPL ( if they can succeed
>> coding for the ARM base system and the CDMA system).
>> I have only the verilog code with uncertant COPYRIGHT.
> how many people work on the verilog code? only you?
>> I have not heard about how the GPL use in the ASIC codes.
>> But think I can rewite it under GPL or another COPYRIGHT( if NOT illegal ).
> sounds good.
> I think you mean (if NOT legal) or (if illegal).
> (rewrite it to GPL is definitely legal :-)
>>     That's our proposal. What do you think about it ?
>>     Thank you.
>>                           by DengYaNuo, 20090723_1110pm at Xi'An, China
>> 2009/7/23 Wolfgang Spraul <wolfgang at qi-hardware.com>:
>>> Dear Deng,
>>> _PLEASE_ resend your email to the public developer at lists.qi-hardware.com list.
>>> What you are describing is _EXACTLY_ the type of thing we want to do.
>>> We want to create GPL-licensed ASICs or FPGAs. We need people like you and
>>> your team. I am firmly planning to visit you in Xi'An soon.
>>> At this point, please send exactly the same mail as you sent to me to the list.
>>> I will respond again there.
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Wolfgang
>>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 03:49:45PM +0800, deng_ya_nuo wrote:
>>>> Hi ,  Mr. Wolfgang,
>>>>      I have contacted to Liu Xiangfu, and he will send the phones in
>>>> several days. Thank you.
>>>>       We are interesting in your Qi project.
>>>> I am a ASIC coder ( by verilog) in Xi'An . My friends are linux kernel
>>>> & driver writers in Guang'Dong.
>>>> We can go to Beijin to help you, but if you hope, we can do something
>>>> for the Qi open souce group.
>>>>       1.   If a FPGA socket ( Lattice XP2 , or others) is designed in
>>>> the next generation hardware board,
>>>> I think I can add AES (encryption) function into it, by SPI prototol .
>>>> In the future, we can realize it by ASIC in $1000 once, and $0.1 per
>>>> chip only(if the chip made in china, I know where to manufacture it).
>>>>  That's good news for the open souce group.
>>>> You just need to leave the FPGA socket in the board, and I finish the
>>>> remain jobs.
>>>> If I failed, just a blank socket in the board, or if I succeed, the Qi
>>>> project get the AES hardware function in $0.1 per chip.
>>>>      2. My friends want to rebuild a CDMA version FreeRunner. The
>>>> first they will test the old FreeRunner
>>>> and decide whether they have the ability to change the GSM module into
>>>> CDMA module.
>>>> Some new hardware maybe need to rebuild. All the codes will
>>>> contribuild to the open souce group, they said.
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