hi. Could I buy a prototype of some upcoming hardware of (Openmoko) ? Or, borrow 2 month , at now hardware version ? I am testing the arm kernel. Thank you.
wolfgang at qi-hardware.com
Sat Jul 25 04:37:20 EDT 2009
yes this all sounds very interesting! Thanks a lot for sharing with us.
First I will add the proposal of leaving a FPGA socket on the Ya NanoNote
to the product page. It will still take 1-2 months or so before we start
to finalize the features of Ya together with the community. But it's on the
Do you know www.opencores.org ? I think there are some interesting things
going on there.
Keep us posted about your activities, we should meet at some point...
Best Regards, thanks for your interest and post,
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:11:54PM +0800, deng_ya_nuo wrote:
> Dear Wolfgang,
> I am glad to hear that. But I am sad at the same time, for my poor English.
> I doubt whether we can talk.
> My AES chip was tapout on July 5.
> I think I could modify it into FPGA with SPI protocol and contribute it.
> But I don't know whether it fit the GPL.
> In 2005, I was hired by a factory to make the chip with 2 MIPS cpu inside,
> together with some IP core on the bus. Later, my friends went to there
> and work togther.
> Mr. Peng write the linux kernel for one MIPS core, Mr. Gong write the
> uC-OS for another core,
> Mr. Liu write the bootloader and SD driver, Mr. Liu(2) write the web
> application, and I write the IP cores.
> The chip tapout on June, 2006 and return on Sep. The chip succeeded
> but the market failed.
> The group disbanded on 2008. I went back to Xi'An, two go to HongKong,
> one in ShengZhen, and one in GuangZhou.
> We talk by internet and want to do something. We all think the 3G is a
> good change.
> No enoughe money support us to make another chip, but we can use the
> chips from market.
> So after my chip taped out, I began to search for the chips to
> construct the 3G mobile, and I found the openmoko yesternight.
> I thought it's a good start. My friends aggreed to me after taking a loop on it.
> We don't know what the GPL is, in fact, for we are not the lawyer.
> We just know we snatch the codes from the internet and contribute back
> to the internet.
> The market of China's 3G is big enougth for all of us, so no necessary
> for us to make our codes private.
> So they agree to public their codes under GPL ( if they can succeed
> coding for the ARM base system and the CDMA system).
> I have only the verilog code with uncertant COPYRIGHT.
> I have not heard about how the GPL use in the ASIC codes.
> But think I can rewite it under GPL or another COPYRIGHT( if NOT illegal ).
> That's our proposal. What do you think about it ?
> Thank you.
> by DengYaNuo, 20090723_1110pm at Xi'An, China
> 2009/7/23 Wolfgang Spraul <wolfgang at qi-hardware.com>:
> > Dear Deng,
> > _PLEASE_ resend your email to the public developer at lists.qi-hardware.com list.
> > What you are describing is _EXACTLY_ the type of thing we want to do.
> > We want to create GPL-licensed ASICs or FPGAs. We need people like you and
> > your team. I am firmly planning to visit you in Xi'An soon.
> > At this point, please send exactly the same mail as you sent to me to the list.
> > I will respond again there.
> > Best Regards,
> > Wolfgang
> > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 03:49:45PM +0800, deng_ya_nuo wrote:
> >> Hi , Mr. Wolfgang,
> >> I have contacted to Liu Xiangfu, and he will send the phones in
> >> several days. Thank you.
> >> We are interesting in your Qi project.
> >> I am a ASIC coder ( by verilog) in Xi'An . My friends are linux kernel
> >> & driver writers in Guang'Dong.
> >> We can go to Beijin to help you, but if you hope, we can do something
> >> for the Qi open souce group.
> >> 1. If a FPGA socket ( Lattice XP2 , or others) is designed in
> >> the next generation hardware board,
> >> I think I can add AES (encryption) function into it, by SPI prototol .
> >> In the future, we can realize it by ASIC in $1000 once, and $0.1 per
> >> chip only(if the chip made in china, I know where to manufacture it).
> >> That's good news for the open souce group.
> >> You just need to leave the FPGA socket in the board, and I finish the
> >> remain jobs.
> >> If I failed, just a blank socket in the board, or if I succeed, the Qi
> >> project get the AES hardware function in $0.1 per chip.
> >> 2. My friends want to rebuild a CDMA version FreeRunner. The
> >> first they will test the old FreeRunner
> >> and decide whether they have the ability to change the GSM module into
> >> CDMA module.
> >> Some new hardware maybe need to rebuild. All the codes will
> >> contribuild to the open souce group, they said.
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