hi. Could I buy a prototype of some upcoming hardware of (Openmoko) ? Or, borrow 2 month , at now hardware version ? I am testing the arm kernel. Thank you.

Steve Mosher steve at qi-hardware.com
Sun Jul 26 16:35:19 EDT 2009

 I would think that you could use the GPL license with respect to the
verilog code. versions of the GPL license are available on-line.

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 8:11 AM, deng_ya_nuo <deng.ya.nuo at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Wolfgang,
>     I am glad to hear that. But I am sad at the same time, for my poor
> English.
> I doubt whether we can talk.
>     My AES chip was tapout on July 5.
> I think I could modify it into FPGA with SPI protocol and contribute it.
> But I don't know whether it fit the GPL.
>    In 2005, I was hired by a factory to make the chip with 2 MIPS cpu
> inside,
> together with some IP core on the bus. Later, my friends went to there
> and work togther.
> Mr. Peng write the linux kernel for one MIPS core, Mr. Gong write the
> uC-OS for another core,
> Mr. Liu write the bootloader and SD driver, Mr. Liu(2) write the web
> application, and I write the IP cores.
> The chip tapout on June, 2006 and return on Sep. The chip succeeded
> but the market failed.
> The group disbanded on 2008. I went back to Xi'An, two go to HongKong,
> one in ShengZhen, and one in GuangZhou.
> We talk by internet and want to do something. We all think the 3G is a
> good change.
> No enoughe money support us to make another chip, but we can use the
> chips from market.
> So after my chip taped out, I began to search for the chips to
> construct the 3G mobile, and I found the openmoko yesternight.
> I thought it's a good start. My friends aggreed to me after taking a loop
> on it.
>    We don't know what the GPL is, in fact, for we are not the lawyer.
> We just know we snatch the codes from the internet and contribute back
> to the internet.
> The market of China's 3G is big enougth for all of us, so no necessary
> for us to make our codes private.
> So they agree to public their codes under GPL ( if they can succeed
> coding for the ARM base system and the CDMA system).
> I have only the verilog code with uncertant COPYRIGHT.
> I have not heard about how the GPL use in the ASIC codes.
> But think I can rewite it under GPL or another COPYRIGHT( if NOT illegal ).
>    That's our proposal. What do you think about it ?
>    Thank you.
>                          by DengYaNuo, 20090723_1110pm at Xi'An, China
> 2009/7/23 Wolfgang Spraul <wolfgang at qi-hardware.com>:
> > Dear Deng,
> > _PLEASE_ resend your email to the public developer at lists.qi-hardware.comlist.
> > What you are describing is _EXACTLY_ the type of thing we want to do.
> > We want to create GPL-licensed ASICs or FPGAs. We need people like you
> and
> > your team. I am firmly planning to visit you in Xi'An soon.
> >
> > At this point, please send exactly the same mail as you sent to me to the
> list.
> > I will respond again there.
> > Best Regards,
> > Wolfgang
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 03:49:45PM +0800, deng_ya_nuo wrote:
> >> Hi ,  Mr. Wolfgang,
> >>      I have contacted to Liu Xiangfu, and he will send the phones in
> >> several days. Thank you.
> >>
> >>       We are interesting in your Qi project.
> >> I am a ASIC coder ( by verilog) in Xi'An . My friends are linux kernel
> >> & driver writers in Guang'Dong.
> >> We can go to Beijin to help you, but if you hope, we can do something
> >> for the Qi open souce group.
> >>
> >>       1.   If a FPGA socket ( Lattice XP2 , or others) is designed in
> >> the next generation hardware board,
> >> I think I can add AES (encryption) function into it, by SPI prototol .
> >> In the future, we can realize it by ASIC in $1000 once, and $0.1 per
> >> chip only(if the chip made in china, I know where to manufacture it).
> >>  That's good news for the open souce group.
> >> You just need to leave the FPGA socket in the board, and I finish the
> >> remain jobs.
> >> If I failed, just a blank socket in the board, or if I succeed, the Qi
> >> project get the AES hardware function in $0.1 per chip.
> >>
> >>      2. My friends want to rebuild a CDMA version FreeRunner. The
> >> first they will test the old FreeRunner
> >> and decide whether they have the ability to change the GSM module into
> >> CDMA module.
> >> Some new hardware maybe need to rebuild. All the codes will
> >> contribuild to the open souce group, they said.
> >>
> >>
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