hi. Could I buy a prototype of some upcoming hardware of (Openmoko) ? Or, borrow 2 month , at now hardware version ? I am testing the arm kernel. Thank you.

Adam Wang adam at qi-hardware.com
Tue Jul 28 22:49:19 EDT 2009


Steve Mosher wrote:
>  I would think that you could use the GPL license with respect to the 
> verilog code.
>  versions of the GPL license are available on-line.
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 8:11 AM, deng_ya_nuo <deng.ya.nuo at gmail.com 
> <mailto:deng.ya.nuo at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Dear Wolfgang,
>
>         I am glad to hear that. But I am sad at the same time, for my
>     poor English.
>     I doubt whether we can talk.
>
>         My AES chip was tapout on July 5.
>
Hi Deng,
Could you let me know that dimension, pins or spec. of AES chip?  
Definitely we are glad that you are interested with ours NanoNotes. 
>
>     I think I could modify it into FPGA with SPI protocol and
>     contribute it.
>     But I don't know whether it fit the GPL.
>
>        In 2005, I was hired by a factory to make the chip with 2 MIPS
>     cpu inside,
>     together with some IP core on the bus. Later, my friends went to there
>     and work togther.
>     Mr. Peng write the linux kernel for one MIPS core, Mr. Gong write the
>     uC-OS for another core,
>     Mr. Liu write the bootloader and SD driver, Mr. Liu(2) write the web
>     application, and I write the IP cores.
>     The chip tapout on June, 2006 and return on Sep. The chip succeeded
>     but the market failed.
>     The group disbanded on 2008. I went back to Xi'An, two go to HongKong,
>     one in ShengZhen, and one in GuangZhou.
>     We talk by internet and want to do something. We all think the 3G is a
>     good change.
>     No enoughe money support us to make another chip, but we can use the
>     chips from market.
>     So after my chip taped out, I began to search for the chips to
>     construct the 3G mobile, and I found the openmoko yesternight.
>     I thought it's a good start. My friends aggreed to me after taking
>     a loop on it.
>
>        We don't know what the GPL is, in fact, for we are not the lawyer.
>     We just know we snatch the codes from the internet and contribute back
>     to the internet.
>
This is the one of keys of open concepts. :-)  So very happy that you 
want to share your idea. So having reference design for your chip? Thank 
you.
>
>     The market of China's 3G is big enougth for all of us, so no necessary
>     for us to make our codes private.
>     So they agree to public their codes under GPL ( if they can succeed
>     coding for the ARM base system and the CDMA system).
>     I have only the verilog code with uncertant COPYRIGHT.
>     I have not heard about how the GPL use in the ASIC codes.
>     But think I can rewite it under GPL or another COPYRIGHT( if NOT
>     illegal ).
>
>        That's our proposal. What do you think about it ?
>
>        Thank you.
>
>                              by DengYaNuo, 20090723_1110pm at Xi'An, China
>
>     2009/7/23 Wolfgang Spraul <wolfgang at qi-hardware.com
>     <mailto:wolfgang at qi-hardware.com>>:
>     > Dear Deng,
>     > _PLEASE_ resend your email to the public
>     developer at lists.qi-hardware.com
>     <mailto:developer at lists.qi-hardware.com> list.
>     > What you are describing is _EXACTLY_ the type of thing we want
>     to do.
>     > We want to create GPL-licensed ASICs or FPGAs. We need people
>     like you and
>     > your team. I am firmly planning to visit you in Xi'An soon.
>     >
>     > At this point, please send exactly the same mail as you sent to
>     me to the list.
>     > I will respond again there.
>     > Best Regards,
>     > Wolfgang
>     >
>     > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 03:49:45PM +0800, deng_ya_nuo wrote:
>     >> Hi ,  Mr. Wolfgang,
>     >>      I have contacted to Liu Xiangfu, and he will send the
>     phones in
>     >> several days. Thank you.
>     >>
>     >>       We are interesting in your Qi project.
>     >> I am a ASIC coder ( by verilog) in Xi'An . My friends are linux
>     kernel
>     >> & driver writers in Guang'Dong.
>     >> We can go to Beijin to help you, but if you hope, we can do
>     something
>     >> for the Qi open souce group.
>     >>
>     >>       1.   If a FPGA socket ( Lattice XP2 , or others) is
>     designed in
>     >> the next generation hardware board,
>     >> I think I can add AES (encryption) function into it, by SPI
>     prototol .
>     >> In the future, we can realize it by ASIC in $1000 once, and
>     $0.1 per
>     >> chip only(if the chip made in china, I know where to
>     manufacture it).
>     >>  That's good news for the open souce group.
>     >> You just need to leave the FPGA socket in the board, and I
>     finish the
>     >> remain jobs.
>     >> If I failed, just a blank socket in the board, or if I succeed,
>     the Qi
>     >> project get the AES hardware function in $0.1 per chip.
>     >>
>     >>      2. My friends want to rebuild a CDMA version FreeRunner. The
>     >> first they will test the old FreeRunner
>     >> and decide whether they have the ability to change the GSM
>     module into
>     >> CDMA module.
>     >> Some new hardware maybe need to rebuild. All the codes will
>     >> contribuild to the open souce group, they said.
>     >>
>     >>
>
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