Ya (or Mu suggestions)

Wolfgang Spraul wolfgang at qi-hardware.com
Thu Jul 30 05:28:33 EDT 2009

thanks for your excellent mail!
I think many people feel like you, we will collect all the various improvement
ideas for Ya on the product page, then let's decide later what we will really

One thing about Bluetooth - I keep hearing it's very power hungry, startup
times from sleep are slow (3 seconds), etc.
There seems to be something new called 'ZigBee'.
Does anybody know more about it?
Spectec will come out with a microSD ZigBee card (using TI 2450) soon,
depending on how open this all is, Linux driver status etc. it could be


On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 08:53:54AM +0200, Peter Malte Mack wrote:
> Hi,
> first of all to introduce myself: I am a guy who has been Openmoko from the
> very beginnings, likes the general idea of mobile computing and believes in
> openness - though i have to add, that i am really bad at programming and no
> computer scientist - more the user, besides that i´ ve been blogging [1]
> about linux on mobile devices more or less frequently for some time - but i
> am not used to posting to lists like this one.
> Looking at the Ben, which is of course only a start, i like the form factor
> and, as i write frequently and almost everywhere (==on the go) the fact that
> the Ben NanoNote has a keyboard which looks pretty usable. Reading the
> specsheet I was pretty disappointed first, but understanding that it is just
> a start, it is ok - besides that I like the idea of leaving distributions to
> the community - a good idea after all the struggle OM has (had) with it.
> There´ve been lots of proposals to this list, and even though the Ben could
> yet serve as offline wikipedia, media player, gameboy or organizer device, I
> believe connectivity is important nowadays (think of all this marketing
> around cloud computing, it makes people believe that they absolutely need to
> be connected everywhere, be it to twitter the weather) - and, even though it
> makes the device more pricey, i believe that one should not wait to long
> before one adds connectivity.
> Besides connectivity is needed (first sth like wifi or just bt (to be able
> to connect a cellphone for internet access)) and more RAM is always nice, i
> think expandability would make this device (small as it is) more
> interesting. Therefore I would recommend to add USB Host and, if possible, a
> second (micro)SD slot (maybe instead of that big NAND chip?), to be able to
> have storage and SDIO...
> A expandable device btw offers another, additional kind of openness.. ;)
> Knowing that you want to go a way of small steps, maybe add BT and USBhost
> first, and then go on -  - one could add BT and USBhost by adding a normal,
> powered, female USB A port at the back of the Ya NanoNote and delivering the
> hardware with an USB BT dongle.
> I am not sure how this could fit, and as I heard somewhere that replacing a
> case is one of the most expensive things I know that this might not be a
> practicable proposal, but I strongly believe that USB Host should be usable
> in a comfortable way while being mobile - i am sure there are alternatives
> to this (e.g. a good  adapter from mini/micro-b to female a, which fits good
> to the Nanonote (or is especially small, if the nanonotes USB port is
> already at the back), and I believe you should try to offer such things, as
> it adds value to the product, 3rd party probably won´ t do  and not
> everybody is talented at finding/building DIY solutions).
> This would solve all connectivity issues in a rather simple way (thinking of
> how small wifi dongles have become, i´ve got one with an overall length of
> 3.4 cm) - you could stop people from waiting for the next unit or the second
> next and earn some money ;)
> I apologize for every potential mistake in my writing and wish you all the
> best,
> Peter
> [1] http://linmob.blogspot.com

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