Open hardware (was: Re: FOSDEM lightning talk slides)

Jon Phillips jon at rejon.org
Thu Feb 4 20:51:58 EST 2010


But hey, we are trying to discern even from open, as copyleft. Check out the
http://qi-hardware.com.

Jon

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 10:37 PM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez <
david at tuxbrain.com> wrote:

> 2010/2/4 Sébastien Bourdeauducq <sebastien.bourdeauducq at lekernel.net>:
> > On Thursday 04 February 2010 17:53:57 Ron K. Jeffries wrote:
> >> Copyleft hardware includes (to my mind) open hardware
> >> projects which incorporate complex silicon such as a processor
> >> where the programming API is open, but the chip manufacturer
> >> does not disclose detailed design at gate level.
> >>
> >> Arduino is a good example, where multiple outfits around the
> >> world design, manufacture and sell PCBs and kits that are
> >> clones of Arduino, or are "shields" that plug in and add functions.
> >
> > Ok. So, please note that a x86 PC also fits into this definition of open
> > hardware: Intel discloses programming manuals for their processors and
> > chipsets, with a little research you can find schematics and gerbers of
> some
> > motherboards (which, anyway, aren't *so* hard to design nowadays, as the
> > chipsets do pretty much everything) and multiple outfits around the world
> > design, manufacture and sell PCBs, kits and devices that are clones of
> the
> > original IBM PC, or are "peripherals" that plug in and add functions.
> >
> > It's good to see people believe in open hardware and start with easier
> > projects; but copyleft gate-level designs are the way to go, especially
> since
> > chips do most of the work in today's devices and are sometimes highly
> > specialized and quickly become obsolete.
> >
> > Sébastien
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Qi Developer Mailing List
> > Mail to list (members only): developer at lists.qi-hardware.com
> > Subscribe or Unsubscribe:
> http://lists.qi-hardware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/developer
> >
> Sebastien, the "Qi" is our "DO", with Milkymist we will do that step
> forward(or down) to the gate level freedoom, Ben is only the begining
> on of the way. Be confidence we all here are commited walk that way.
> Regards
>
>
> --
> David Reyes Samblas Martinez
> http://www.tuxbrain.com
> Open ultraportable & embedded solutions
> Ben NanoNote, Arduino, Openmoko
> Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!!
>
> _______________________________________________
> Qi Developer Mailing List
> Mail to list (members only): developer at lists.qi-hardware.com
> Subscribe or Unsubscribe:
> http://lists.qi-hardware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/developer
>



-- 
Jon Phillips
http://rejon.org/
http://fabricatorz.com/
internet: @rejon + skype: kidproto
+1.415.830.3884 (sf/global)
+86.134.3957.2035 (china)
Sent from Berlin, BE, Germany
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.en.qi-hardware.com/pipermail/discussion/attachments/20100205/02710511/attachment.htm>


More information about the discussion mailing list


interactive