some thoughts on SAKC

Ron K. Jeffries rjeffries at
Sat Feb 27 13:58:10 EST 2010

I would argue Milkymist, SAKC is not "either/or"
rather AND. Both projects are exciting and
each of them has tremendous potential.

For controlling a robot (for example), SAKC
will be a great fit. And you've gotta love how
SAKC leverages the Nanonote development.

May a thousand** flowers bloom.

**Or more. ;)
Ron K. Jeffries

On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 10:21, Sébastien Bourdeauducq <
sebastien.bourdeauducq at> wrote:

> On Saturday 27 February 2010 17:36:49 Carlos Camargo wrote:
> > Ingenic's CPUs don't have a lot of peripherals, just the most popular for
> > multimedia applications, If you have an specific Hardware task (FPU, PWM,
> > communication Unit, etc) you can't use this processor, so, you must buy a
> > commercial IC and interconnect it with the CPU, so, Again you need a lot
> of
> > interfaces. Another solution is design your own SoC platform, but
> Milkymist
> > work is in progress, and you need wait for it :)
> You seem to overestimate the difficulty of using it :)
> You can boot nommu Linux on it today - the few people I know who have a
> ML401
> have been successful at doing it. Developing drivers for your particular
> peripheral is like developing a driver for any other one. Furthermore,
> adding
> peripherals is easy - last August, I was giving a workshop at /tmp/lab
> about
> developing and adding simple peripherals (things like GPIO controllers and
> beep generators) to Milkymist, and even people with < 30 hours of FPGA
> programming experience were able to do it.
> In terms of performance, Milkymist beats Xilinx Microblaze - making it a
> FAST softcore platform:
> Of course, there are still many problems - GCC sometimes crashes, software
> packages using old versions of GNU Autocrap won't recognize the CPU, the
> executable loader is abominable (shared libraries won't work, some C++
> features cause problems and compiling is a bit messy because of that), some
> drivers (sound, HW acceleration etc.) are missing, etc. But if people put
> the
> same amount of effort as they put into proprietary platforms (Blackfin,
> ARM,
> ...) instead of "waiting" for Milkymist to be ready thanks to some divine
> action, these issues would probably be fixed in a couple of weeks. Many
> software tasks are as simple, if not easier, to do on Milkymist as on the
> other platforms - don't be afraid for it uses an FPGA.
> Sébastien
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