Open Hardware Creative Commons Draft

David Reyes Samblas Martinez david at
Fri Jul 16 05:56:06 EDT 2010

I think is same (or very alike) situation as in software:
Free Software != Open Software
Copyleft Hardware != Open Hardware

Copyleft Hardware has more things in common with Free software than
with Open Hardware.

2010/7/16 jon at <jon at>:
> <topPost />
> This is a good time to call out the parts defined for Copyleft
> Hardware. Copyleft Hardware is different from Open Source Hardware.
> Open Source and Open Source HardWare are far too vague of terms to be
> useful at this point, to describe what is necessary to free the
> knowledge necessary to build both complete free hardware, business and
> industry around something like the NanoNote, Milkymist, etc.
> You can say your product is Qi hardware (aka, Copyleft Hardware) if it has:
>    * Copyleft Plans (CC BY-SA): Plans to manufacture the device.
>    * Copyleft Software (GPL): Software to use the device and to
> construct it from the plans.
>    * Public Patents (Public Patents): Patents free and clear for
> technology on the device. (Patent-Free Technology)
> The goal of Qi is to have 100% Copyleft Hardware.
> Check out those pages on the
> Of importance is to recognize that the more we post about our
> innovations and technology on this wiki, we are making prior art on
> our hardware. This is a great approach to transcending the patent
> problem. More on that later.
> The Open Source HardWare definition is super vague and not firm or
> complete enough to be helpful for a major global movement, like
> Qi/Copyleft Hardware. I know. I flew to the first meeting in NYC and
> have been participating, ok, well, mostly observing now. I recommended
> our approach to the problem quite vocally at the meetings on the
> lists, but our path was not chosen. However, I firmly believe for a
> really meaningful impact in this field, we need the same extremity
> that RMS had with the GPL, but with the different beast, hardware.
> Also, I don't think we need such a big detailed statement to really
> determine what can be *open* hardware. The more details made, the
> harder it becomes to make something innovative. More importantly, it
> is great to be committed to the freeing of as much knowledge as
> possible, around the creation, production, and use of qi hardware
> projects and products.
> So, its great to have this OSHW as a point for counterpoint. However,
> I would ask us to consider: What about Qi Hardware and our
> definitions? :)
> Jon
> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Werner Almesberger
> <werner at> wrote:
>> Carlos Camargo wrote:
>>> I think that in the point 1 there is a missing feature:
>> I think open tools and "open sourcing" are important. But I would
>> rather put them into guidelines than mixing them with the license.
>> A license should simply state what you allow to be done with your
>> work. Whether your work is actually useful or not, is beyond the
>> scope of the license. There are many ways to create useless work,
>> depending on expensive tools or requiring unobtainable ingredients
>> are but a few.
>> Of course, every developer aiming to further openness should
>> strive to make their work not only open but also relevant, and
>> there are probably many cases where constrains that will cause
>> problems further down the road are readily accepted because they
>> seem harmless or unavoidable.
>> In such cases, developers may appreciate guidance that makes them
>> aware of the issues and that also enables them to make whatever
>> transition is necessary to ultimately make their work more
>> relevant.
>> A license allowing derivative work also opens another door for
>> making projects more relevant, namely by enabling others to solve
>> issues the original developers may fail to perceive or to address.
>> - Werner
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