Ben's software: a user perspective
mirko at sharism.cc
Fri May 7 17:54:54 EDT 2010
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 8:42 PM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez <
david at tuxbrain.com> wrote:
> Mirko V , Mirko S, Larsc, Xiang seems is time to organize the
> community task force to pimping the nano :)
Music to my ears :)
> I suggest to do a report on what are you working on right now, and
> what are you next moves, over it we can do some todo list on the wiki
> all toghether, mark the most feasable goals to reach and start
> working on the next(or second next) release.
Sounds like a plan. Some thoughts and suggestions:
- Mirko V. is working on a new image, I suggest we use the next image as a
starting point, we can take stock and collect bugs, issues etc, which I
think is a very important area all of us should tackle
- we could revive the "wish-list" page and for projects that are being
started create individual wiki pages right away
- in general would any help in making the wiki more accessible and more
complete be great, there are many parts that need some love :)
- over the next few days I will try to create an overview on the things
Mirko V., Larsc, Xiangfu and I are working on or could envision supporting
I will think a bit more about this and collect my thoughts on a wiki page
(link will follow as soon as it exists :) ).
If anyone has ideas and is faster than I am, please go ahead and create the
wiki page etc, I will tag along :)
> El día 7 de mayo de 2010 17:07, Rubén Berenguel
> <ruben at mostlymaths.net> escribió:
> > Agree quite with Fernando's point. I could help a little (as you, C,
> > mostly), although some of the programs I like "are" command line,
> > only. But I usually use them from inside emacs :) How I miss it...
> > Ruben
> > On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 13:06, David Reyes Samblas Martinez
> > <david at tuxbrain.com> wrote:
> >> Fernando all you have said have a lot of sense,
> >> my comments in line.
> >> 2010/5/7 Fernando Carello <fcarello at libero.it>:
> >>> Hello everyone,
> >>> I'd like to share with you my personal view on the Ben. I hope I'm not
> going to be flamed, anyway I have my flame suite on. :D
> >> Your words where kind and you have point a lot of useful stuff, you
> >> can put off the flame suite, no fire here :P
> >>> Let me start with a brief introduction.
> >>> I have the Ben and like it, it's really nice.
> >>> I like Linux, I work with it since 1992.
> >>> I like programming; I work with image recognition stuff and GPU
> >>> But, I think (personal opinion...) that the Ben should be graced with a
> reasonable suite of user-friendly GUI utilities, properly integrated with
> gmenu2x. Like gmu, as an example.
> >>> I know, many of you think that command-line utilies like "gcal" and
> "bc" are great and all that's needed; I beg to disagree, because of Ben's
> limitations (keyboard and screen limitations, that is).
> >> having a bunch of shell apps doesn't harm anyone, and surelly, at
> >> least me, have started to port that ones because they are usally easy
> >> to manage due not much dependencies to deal with but I agree the more
> >> sweet candy eye apps the better :)
> >>> We already have:
> >>> - graphic launcher (gmenu2x). Could use some specific Ben tweaks
> (keyboard mapping, help file)
> >>> - PDF reader (nupdf)
> >>> - multimedia player (gmu)
> >>> I think that the Ben would shine with:
> >>> - a decent PIM suite with a nice GUI (QT-based, maybe): address book,
> clock/alarm, calendar, todo list, notes and the like
> >>> - a simple, nice graphical calculator and unit conversion utility
> >>> - a basic spreadsheet (simpler and lighter than SIAG, if possible)
> >> Add a simple&fast Image/Video player and you will have the Image of
> >> my dreams :)
> >>> It's my opinion that, with such a software suite, Ben's adoption could
> spread beyond reasearches, uber-geeks and gadget freaks. This in turn could
> raise Ben's popularity, Sharism concepts and ultimately could help Sharism
> collecting resources (money, user base etc.) for future projects.
> >> Totally agree
> >>> I think we also need to address some long standing bugs:
> >>> - fully working, flexible power saving mode (clock speed modulation,
> backlight levels, ...). Such a device really needs accurate power management
> in my humble opinion
> >> Due time to boot is relative small I don't think there is a priority
> >> now, we can just shutdown the device to save batt :), but if we
> >> achieve a good reliable suspend/resume time can be a good add.
> >>> - fast SD access (DMA)
> >> on Lars todo list :)
> >>> - screen flickering. Mine flickers like crazy in graphic mode
> >> this is also fixed and will be on next release, the guilty was gmenu2x
> >> playing with CPU clocking, Lars has smached that bug :)
> >>> Now, I can foresee the typical "Well, and so? Fix it by yourself, it's
> open source baby!", but really, do you think an individual with little spare
> time can reasonably "fix by himself" everything?
> >> Hey haven't you read the motto of Qi-Hardware? is "Do it yourself? Do
> >> it together!!!" :P, the most rought answer you can receive is "no time
> >> now, added to the TODO list!" :P
> >>> Maybe, if some of you share my point of view, we could try and organize
> a developing team.
> >>> In my opinion, this team should be actively driven by Sharism/QI staff
> people and work steadily (if slowly), by milestones, in order not to waste
> >> +1, count with a tester/bug cacher here.
> >>> That said, all I can offer (besides this message :-) ) is a bit of my
> time as a C developer.
> >>> I don't know much about Linux kernel, but if properly instructed, I can
> work on whatever C project.
> >> I aim to people to join this initiative :)
> >>> Love,
> >>> Fernando
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> >> http://www.tuxbrain.com
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