packages conflict

Mark Tuson markfptuson at gmail.com
Wed Nov 17 14:57:59 EST 2010


Ruben,

Mine lasts about ten hours at a pinch, but I top it up when I'm sat at a 
computer, anyway - which is a lot of the time. Just plug it in for an 
hour here and there and it's alright. Then plug it in overnight. I've 
never had to fsck the card when the system's gone off, or when the 
card's been popped out when mounted (as has happened once or twice when 
I've not been careful with it). Then again, my Debian is actually on the 
NAND, and my 15G partition is /home, don't know what your configuration 
is. The only speed issue I've had with Debian has been when I load vim 
or a man, I have to wait about five seconds. No problems with the 
keyboard at all. What is your setup?

Aside, to anyone who knows: is it an actual Linux kernel on the 
NanoNote? Or is it a highly customized one for the lb60? Just wondering; 
would I be able to compile a new one on it from source, transfer it to 
my PC, and flash it over? Or do I have to use the SDK and a pile of diffs?

Mark.


On 17/11/10 18:56, Rubén Berenguel wrote:
> Mark,
>
> I have a problem with keeping it up always: the battery seems to last
> less with Debian than with OpenWRT. And if by mistake it runs out of
> battery (some times this happens during the night), I need my laptop
> to fsck the SD card, because if not it won't power up (system not
> fscked->boot up fails in this Debian), and then this feels bad. This
> is the main reason I'm not using it just the same way you do.
>
> Also, I've had several problems with Debian's speed: some times I type
> "p" and I get maybe 10p's... (p is just an example, it can happen with
> other keys, of course). Has it happened to you? Any idea why this may
> happen?
>
> Ruben
>
> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 19:33, Mark Tuson<markfptuson at gmail.com>  wrote:
>    
>> Yeah it takes a while to boot and halt, but my way of coping with it is
>> incredibly simple: keep it charged, and never turn it off. Its uptime has
>> reached two months recently, but then it ran out of power on Saturday. I
>> charged it, and turned it on again, and it's fine now. I don't use a GUI on
>> it - partly because the programs I use won't work on a machine with spec as
>> low as the NanoNote, and partly because I want to learn more about purely
>> CLI-based operation. In my experience, all the CLI apps work (except java,
>> which just hangs the system) and rogue (which needs an 80x24 display; I've
>> got 60x20 or whatever it is - it hangs the system because of it). X with TWM
>> or FVWM loads in a few seconds, but XFCE takes about five minutes. SIMH
>> works fine (well, altairz80 and pdp11 do, wanted to try vax but I don't
>> really want a vax simulator on there). I basically use my NanoNote as a
>> miniature laptop, for taking notes, a little programming, and exploring old
>> UNIX (what SIMH is there for).
>>
>> I went with Debian because it's what I have on all my other computers. I put
>> a 16G uSD card in it: 64M for swap, the rest for storage (and Debian
>> supports ext4, too :) ). And it comes with GCC and whatnot, while compiling
>> for OpenWRT seems to require building the cross-compiler and system stuff,
>> which was quite ugly when I tried to do it.
>>
>> The only problems I've had on Debian were swapping and keymapping (solved
>> ages ago now), passwords (solved when I apt-got dist-upgrade a couple of
>> months ago), and the keymap in X, which I haven't solved, but isn't
>> desperate. It would be nice if the keymap was right in X (because I want to
>> be able to use TWM/FVWM), but since there's no mouse and the display's too
>> small, I'd probably never use it if it did work.
>>
>> Mark.
>>
>>
>> On 17/11/10 17:44, Cristian Paul Peñaranda Rojas wrote:
>>
>> By the way, who actually uses OpenWRT, and what for? I just don't understand
>> why it can't be done with Debian to start off with; it's far more complete
>> (well, after an apt-get dist-upgrade), and will run more software.
>>
>>
>> I do, if i want a simple free of patent and with upstream support for
>> packages. And easilly confirable by Menuconfig (is easy for me it may
>> varies)
>>
>> Sure, why not Debian?, i really din try it, was kind slow first time
>> i did,may be is better now. Some questions:
>>
>>    - how long take too boot (including loading a GUI)?
>>    - how long take to poweroff
>>    - what apps are working (including already ones that works on openwrt
>>      or jlime). i mean music player, maps, dicionary, some basic games
>>
>> May be you can tell us more about your experience, will be cool have it
>> well supported on the Ben.
>>
>>
>> In the other side is Jlime wich is based on OE, wich youw how you can
>> get X stuff running, and of course more than 10.000 packages compared
>> with around 2000 from openwrt
>>
>>
>>
>>
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