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Rubén Berenguel ruben at mostlymaths.net
Wed Nov 17 15:05:13 EST 2010


I'm running it off the SD card. This may be the point... but I would
think SD speed to be roughly the same as NAND speed...?

Ruben

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 20:57, Mark Tuson <markfptuson at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ruben,
>
> Mine lasts about ten hours at a pinch, but I top it up when I'm sat at a
> computer, anyway - which is a lot of the time. Just plug it in for an hour
> here and there and it's alright. Then plug it in overnight. I've never had
> to fsck the card when the system's gone off, or when the card's been popped
> out when mounted (as has happened once or twice when I've not been careful
> with it). Then again, my Debian is actually on the NAND, and my 15G
> partition is /home, don't know what your configuration is. The only speed
> issue I've had with Debian has been when I load vim or a man, I have to wait
> about five seconds. No problems with the keyboard at all. What is your
> setup?
>
> Aside, to anyone who knows: is it an actual Linux kernel on the NanoNote? Or
> is it a highly customized one for the lb60? Just wondering; would I be able
> to compile a new one on it from source, transfer it to my PC, and flash it
> over? Or do I have to use the SDK and a pile of diffs?
>
> Mark.
>
>
> On 17/11/10 18:56, Rubén Berenguel wrote:
>>
>> Mark,
>>
>> I have a problem with keeping it up always: the battery seems to last
>> less with Debian than with OpenWRT. And if by mistake it runs out of
>> battery (some times this happens during the night), I need my laptop
>> to fsck the SD card, because if not it won't power up (system not
>> fscked->boot up fails in this Debian), and then this feels bad. This
>> is the main reason I'm not using it just the same way you do.
>>
>> Also, I've had several problems with Debian's speed: some times I type
>> "p" and I get maybe 10p's... (p is just an example, it can happen with
>> other keys, of course). Has it happened to you? Any idea why this may
>> happen?
>>
>> Ruben
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 19:33, Mark Tuson<markfptuson at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Yeah it takes a while to boot and halt, but my way of coping with it is
>>> incredibly simple: keep it charged, and never turn it off. Its uptime has
>>> reached two months recently, but then it ran out of power on Saturday. I
>>> charged it, and turned it on again, and it's fine now. I don't use a GUI
>>> on
>>> it - partly because the programs I use won't work on a machine with spec
>>> as
>>> low as the NanoNote, and partly because I want to learn more about purely
>>> CLI-based operation. In my experience, all the CLI apps work (except
>>> java,
>>> which just hangs the system) and rogue (which needs an 80x24 display;
>>> I've
>>> got 60x20 or whatever it is - it hangs the system because of it). X with
>>> TWM
>>> or FVWM loads in a few seconds, but XFCE takes about five minutes. SIMH
>>> works fine (well, altairz80 and pdp11 do, wanted to try vax but I don't
>>> really want a vax simulator on there). I basically use my NanoNote as a
>>> miniature laptop, for taking notes, a little programming, and exploring
>>> old
>>> UNIX (what SIMH is there for).
>>>
>>> I went with Debian because it's what I have on all my other computers. I
>>> put
>>> a 16G uSD card in it: 64M for swap, the rest for storage (and Debian
>>> supports ext4, too :) ). And it comes with GCC and whatnot, while
>>> compiling
>>> for OpenWRT seems to require building the cross-compiler and system
>>> stuff,
>>> which was quite ugly when I tried to do it.
>>>
>>> The only problems I've had on Debian were swapping and keymapping (solved
>>> ages ago now), passwords (solved when I apt-got dist-upgrade a couple of
>>> months ago), and the keymap in X, which I haven't solved, but isn't
>>> desperate. It would be nice if the keymap was right in X (because I want
>>> to
>>> be able to use TWM/FVWM), but since there's no mouse and the display's
>>> too
>>> small, I'd probably never use it if it did work.
>>>
>>> Mark.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 17/11/10 17:44, Cristian Paul Peñaranda Rojas wrote:
>>>
>>> By the way, who actually uses OpenWRT, and what for? I just don't
>>> understand
>>> why it can't be done with Debian to start off with; it's far more
>>> complete
>>> (well, after an apt-get dist-upgrade), and will run more software.
>>>
>>>
>>> I do, if i want a simple free of patent and with upstream support for
>>> packages. And easilly confirable by Menuconfig (is easy for me it may
>>> varies)
>>>
>>> Sure, why not Debian?, i really din try it, was kind slow first time
>>> i did,may be is better now. Some questions:
>>>
>>>   - how long take too boot (including loading a GUI)?
>>>   - how long take to poweroff
>>>   - what apps are working (including already ones that works on openwrt
>>>     or jlime). i mean music player, maps, dicionary, some basic games
>>>
>>> May be you can tell us more about your experience, will be cool have it
>>> well supported on the Ben.
>>>
>>>
>>> In the other side is Jlime wich is based on OE, wich youw how you can
>>> get X stuff running, and of course more than 10.000 packages compared
>>> with around 2000 from openwrt
>>>
>>>
>>>
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