ubb-vga version 2, first impression
werner at almesberger.net
Thu Apr 28 10:08:36 EDT 2011
David Kuehling wrote:
> wow this looks great. What kind of resolution is possible with this
I don't quite know yet. I've tried some higher resolutions but
didn't get stable images.
My old XEN-1510 monitor seems to be happy enough with the 1024x768
vertical timing (1024x768 is that monitor's maximum) but gets
confused with the horizontal timing.
At 800x600, things look better, there's still too much horizontal
flickering going on.
The MMC controller can go up to twice the clock rate I've used for
640x480, so 1024x768 with a similar pixel clock (about 20-30% slow)
might be feasible.
One general problem with the timing is that it's generally very
unstable and there appears to be a memory effect: once I find a
stable timing, it work basically all the time, but if I try some
different timing and then return to the know to be good timing, it
all of a sudden fails and I need to tweak parameters until I
"catch" another good timing.
Or I can just let it rest and it'll work fine on the first try
after I return from a nap.
I'm not sure yet what this is. Possible explanations would be some
aliasing, where some timing is actually far off, but we just happen
to synchronize on some other event that occurs at the right time,
or small timing variations that are modulated on the base timing
and that confuse the monitor's clock synchronization.
The monitor seems to use PLLs to track the signal timing, which
could be susceptible to modulation of their reference clock.
I suspect there's also a something the monitor's firmware remembers
about the signal it found. Maybe there's even a timeout after which
it tries a wider range of possible settings. (Just power cycling
doesn't do the trick.)
> You're still using double-scan (sending every line twice)?
I still had the double-scan it at the beginning, but I now do real
VGA. When converting the Ben's frame buffer, I just put each pixel
> Guess we could use the extra pixels to do some dithing for showing
> more colors.
Yup, that would be possible. Now with the PPM input, one can also
precompute an image at the full VGA resolution and display that. I
should also add a raw mode where the color mapping gets bypassed.
> Maybe even some temporal dithering, if the flicker is
Hmm, you could have multiple frame buffers, yes. Flicker would
depend on what vertical frequency the monitor is willing to accept.
At least at VGA resolution, we could send up to twice the current
pixel clock, so something like "100 Hz" should be possible.
> When running the VGA port, any chance that other software can still
> execute in parallel?
That would be nice, wouldn't it ? :-) So far, things don't look too
promising, though. Even turning on the LCD refresh throws off the
timing badly. I also think that I don't have much of a time budget
left in the periods before and after the pixel data, i.e., front and
back porch, and hsync pulse.
If I can get multi-block operations to work, I could use DMA, which
may make things easier. For the hsync pulse, I'd still need a
low-latency timer interrupt plus a delay loop for fine-tuning. (The
total time budget is about 25 us, so the timer would have to be set
to t0 + 25 us - maximum interrupt latency. Then, the driver would
have to busy-loop until the end of the line or the beginning of the
Oh, something you could do right now is pre-compute a short video
sequence. One VGA frame is 150 kB, so you should be able to squeeze
at least 2 seconds of video at 50 fps into the Ben's little memory.
More if you pick a lower frame rate and do pixel/line duplication on
> Just speculating how your code could be reused as an mplayer vidix
> video-out driver :)
Hehe, the Ben home entertainment system ;-) Would also be nice to be
able to run an X server with VGA output on it.
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