Jamendo album to incude

David Reyes Samblas Martinez david at tuxbrain.com
Mon Mar 28 20:17:50 EDT 2011


Thanks Joshua, this links will be very handy on reconversion :)

2011/3/28 Joshua Judson Rosen <rozzin at geekspace.com>:
> David Reyes Samblas Martinez <david at tuxbrain.com> writes:
>>
>> yuri was right, we can't include albums with the non-comercial clause,
>> I's a pity due some ones are really cool ,  but I can't even use them
>> on my videos :(
>
> I gather that a lot of people releasing things under CC licenses with
> non-commercial clauses actually do so basically because they don't
> understand all of the implications of what "non-commercial" means;
> part of it is that they think "commercial" means something much more
> specific than it does (e.g.: "charging fees for relicensing content"
> or "charging fees for selling copies on CD", vs. "receiving money
> for any activity that is in any way related to conveying the work"),
> and the rest is that they think that "non-commercial" means that
> people will come and talk to them if they need some other license-terms.
>
> As such, if you find something that's CC-*-NC that you want to
> redistribute, it might be worthwhile to try to contact the
> copyright-holder (presumably the artist, for most stuff on Jamendo),
> explain the issues to them, and ask them if they'd be willing
> to re-license without the NC clause.
>
> I thought that this was a pretty good, concise explanation of
> why creators are actually better-off *not* applying the
> `non-commercial use only' restriction:
>
>    http://questioncopyright.org/cc-pro
>
> e.g.:
>
>    ... more and more, we've seen professional artists choose
>    Creative Commons licenses that consign their works to a
>    non-professional ghetto. We're referring to the Creative Commons
>    "Non-Commercial" family of licenses: licenses that essentially say
>    "Do what you want with this, as long as you don't make money from it."
>    While that might at first seem like it simply reserves to the artist
>    the right to use the work professionally, it has the much larger
>    effect of removing the work from most professional contexts entirely.
>
>
> Also, this `Power to the Pixel' talk that Nina Paley gave in 2009:
>
>    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eazIth4orfM
>
> (or her very similar HOPE 2010 talk, which was targetted more at hackers,
>  where the `Power to the Pixel' talk was targetted at artists).
>
> At about 2:55 into the `Power to the Pixel' talk, she explains:
>
>    So, I freed the film. And by "free" I mean "freed it in the most
>    radical way I could", which is under what's called a `share-alike'
>    license--a Creative Commons Share-Alike license. I'm actually doing
>    a presentation tomorrow about Free Content where I'm hoping to
>    demystify all the different Creative Commons licenses, because
>    people say, "Oh, I have a Creative Commons license!", but
>    Creative Commons has *free and unfree* licenses and, in my opinion,
>    the Share-Alike license is the free-est license available, where you
>    can do *anything* with this film, *including commercial uses*,
>    which was *essential* because almost all outlets for films cost money:
>    for example, cinemas cost money to run, 35-mm cost money to make,
>    and I wanted it to be shown on 35-mm and I wanted it to be shown
>    in cinemas, so... you can do anything with this film except
>    copyright it.
>
>
> If you watch through the whole thing, she's even got a lot of figures
> demonstrating just what a wild financial success the Share-Alike
> (*without* any `non-commercial' clause) allowed her work to be;
> she also posted updated figures (and some other stuff, in FAQ format
> for quick reference), on her blog:
>
>    http://blog.ninapaley.com/2010/11/15/frequently-asked-questions/
>
>
> Maybe all of these things will be useful references, if you do decide to
> approach someone about relicensing.
>
>
>> 2011/3/26 Yury Bushmelev <jay4mail at gmail.com>:
>> > 2011/3/26 Yury Bushmelev <jay4mail at gmail.com>:
>> >> 2011/3/26 Jane Andreas <JaneAndreas at gmx.com>:
>> >>> According to a part of our wiki, it was thought that we should include some
>> >>> oggs from Jamendo(which I now am acquainted with) On the Nanonote. I suggest
>> >>> we use the following album, provided there are no legal issues.
>> >>>
>> >>> http://www.jamendo.com/en/album/79408
>> >>>
>> >>> A short but very cool album.
>> >>
>> >> You can copy, distribute, advertise and play this album as long as you:
>> >> 1) Give credit to the artist
>> >> 2) Don't use this album for commercial purposes
>> >> 3) Distribute all derivative works under the same license
>> >>
>> >> I'm sure we will have problem with (2), because distributing NN with
>> >> preloaded album is commercial pupose I'm sure :)
>> >>
>> >> We should look for some public domain music for this.
>> >
>> > There is possible to find music that may be used with commercial
>> > purposes via search (checkbox "Find content I can use for commercial
>> > purposes"):
>> > http://www.jamendo.com/en/tag/Enter%20a%20tag...?license_minrights_c=1
>> >
>> > --
>> > Yury Bushmelev
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