Wolfgang, David,
David,
Several people are currently lookinto into possible launchers.
> One question, there is an app launcher to manage all this aplications at time?
I liked the idea of booting into a simple browser, but not sure how easy it is
to launch apps from there, or switch between running apps...
I think we will create a wiki page soon to discuss and then settle the final
SW features.
Wolfgang
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 10:24:37AM +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote:
> David Reyes Samblas Martinez
> http://www.tuxbrain.com
> Open ultraportable & embedded solutions
> Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino
> Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!!
>
>
>
>
> 2009/10/20 Wolfgang Spraul <wolfgang@qi-hardware.com>:
> > David,
> > good to see you! I am wondering where you take your energy from,
> on a healthful diet based on good spanish meals mixed with a lot of
> caffeine + tauritone and the fact that , contrary to what you thought
> when you were not a father, sleep 3-4 hour a day will not kill you.
> > should
> > visit in Spain one day... :-)
> I you come to Barcelona I will be very pleased to meet you , you know
> you have a friend here.
> >
> >> > A lot of beautiful devices will arrive at Tuxbrain soon, at least as
> >> > sample, Wikireader, Ben Nanonote, Always Innovating Touchbook,
> >> > Openpandora, and now I have in my hands an awesome Sharp
> >> > Netwalker(some experiments along with Neo Freerunner soon :P), I wish
> >
> > Great.
> > One of the best things you can do is compare, compare, compare.
> Will do , will do will do :), and also juggling interconnecting them :)
> > I know some of those devices quite well, others not.
> > The Sharp NetWalker looks very interesting indeed, I haven't had one in my
> > hands yet. Price is over 400 USD, right?
> Yes the price rise once you import it to Europe , about 500EUR but I
> have to say it worth it, having clear in mind the obvious differences
> about closed hardware, size and higher performance , I thing is a good
> referer to have in mind as ultraportable clamshell linux device
> > For the NanoNote, first we will ship the Ben and specs are as announced
> > in July. After that will be Ya (next year), and I think it's still several
> > months out before we decide about the final Ya features.
> >
> > My personal favorites are:
> >
> > *) USB host
> and 2.0 please :)
> > *) 64 MB SDRAM
> don't be shy with ram the more the merrier :) but 64 will be fine
> > *) Wi-Fi
> please,please,please
> > *) physically larger and higher-res transflective LCD
> /me is salivating like Homer Simpson in front an award wining donnut
> > *) 16 GB NAND
> I can sacrifice this one in in exchange for a standard SD reader
> >
> > But we will see... I think the key will be feedback from our real Ben
> > customers.
> Count on it.
> > On the software side, I think the roadmap is clear - first OpenWrt, more
> > and more packages, and spend some time to make these packages work well
> > on the device (320x240 is a problem, 40x30 characters in text mode!).
> > In parallel hopefully get Debian going, HW specs should be sufficient for it.
> Old faithfull debian fits every where :), will be a great advance
> regarding software ready aviable (a lot of shell apps out there)
> >
> > For the next few months, focus will be on getting the most out of the Ben.
> > Once you have your device, I am very curious about your feedback and what you
> > think we could do with the device.
> Me too :)
> > OpenZIM is an obvious first thought (like WikiReader, but multiple wikis,
> > color graphics, some way of automatically updating the device when connecting
> > it to your PC/notebook via USB).
> Having USB networking is a great feature, we have to strugle it :)
> > Others I like are calculator, note taking, GNU Octave, audio player/recorder,
> > spreadsheets, mutt, maybe RSS reader or PIM.
> One question, there is an app launcher to manage all this aplications at time?
> >
> > Your feedback is always so encouraging, keep it coming!
> > Wolfgang
> As I allways try I will do my best.
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:26:20AM +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote:
> >> Your wishes are orders man :) ,
> >> Steve and I have started(accidentally :P) a conversation in the OM
> >> list, but sure it will be better to continue it here, please read
> >> below :)
> >>
> >>
> >> David Reyes Samblas Martinez
> >> http://www.tuxbrain.com
> >> Open ultraportable & embedded solutions
> >> Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino
> >> Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> From: steven mosher <moshersteven@gmail.com>
> >> Date: 2009/10/19
> >> Subject: Re: OT:Advances on Ben NanoNote and other things (was Re:
> >> [reader] Wikireader received)
> >> To: List for Openmoko community discussion <community@lists.openmoko.org>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks David I saw your name and just hit reply. Lets take this to
> >> the www.qi-hardware.com
> >> list.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 2:29 PM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez
> >> <david@tuxbrain.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi Steve!
> >> > Firts of all and to not distort the beautifull "first blood" thread of
> >> > Doug I have started it in a another one and also maked it OT due in
> >> > spite is interesting due is about open hardware is not strictly
> >> > Openmoko related. So after the first intro here we go
> >> >
> >> > Yes I have seen this , maybe I'm too much quiet in the Qi Hardware
> >> > List[1], but I read almost all messages there even those I don't
> >> > understand about kernel things :), and of course the blog posts, and
> >> > hey! I also start translating your(our) wiki to spanish :P. So be sure
> >> > I have more than an eye there.
> >> >
> >> > Having GTK over Frambuffer, also see the benchmark , cool! is a great
> >> > great news, you have open a lot of doors for port already existing
> >> > apps and to do new developments.Now next step is have QT over
> >> > Framebuffer too on Openwrt, (if it's not already done yet) and
> >> > possibilities will just multiply :)
> >> >
> >> > Just a point about the envy, is not just to have a wikipedia in your
> >> > pocket, is for have the device itself :) long time waiting that
> >> > project B thing , yes geeks have a part of collector , and there is no
> >> > much commercialized open gadgets out there so any new one is an object
> >> > of desire.
> >> >
> >> > By the way I'm in touch with Wolfgang and Mirko to have one of those
> >> > first Ben NanoNote and start playing with it and spread the results of
> >> > the playing to the world, and yes a color/audio version of The
> >> > Hitchhiker's Gu... sorry Wikipedia will be a cool cool thing :)
> >> >
> >> > A lot of beautiful devices will arrive at Tuxbrain soon, at least as
> >> > sample, Wikireader, Ben Nanonote, Always Innovating Touchbook,
> >> > Openpandora, and now I have in my hands an awesome Sharp
> >> > Netwalker(some experiments along with Neo Freerunner soon :P), I wish
> >> > having three or four more hands to handle all this beauties at once :)
> >> > but at least they have the size to wear them everywhere. But I have no
> >> > patience to wait for them without feeling greats amounts of envy when
> >> > I saw other has the luck to play with them first. I'ts not so bad :)
> >> > this ugly feeling disappears once the courier knocks my door :) and is
> >> > fully forgotten once I start sending them to other envious and
> >> > anxious geeks to calm their hungry of hacking.
> >> >
> >> > Steve, I don't know if your are aware about the om-showroom
> >> > project[2][3], it stills on early stages but I hope in short I will
> >> > have a test site up an running , I was thinking , due NanoNote is
> >> > based on Openwrt that is based on ipk packages as is SHR, do a
> >> > nanonote-showroom will not be so much difficult. I you think is a good
> >> > Idea I can express it in the qi-hardware list. Just same
> >> > "requeriments" as om-showroom, Tuxbrain logo as sponsor, and some
> >> > "classic" banner about Tuxbrain products at the bottom ;P,
> >> >
> >> > Love to talk with you again on this list, man ;)
> >> > [1]http://lists.qi-hardware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/developer
> >> > [2]http://www.tuxbrain.com/en/content/om-showroom-something-show
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > David Reyes Samblas Martinez
> >> > http://www.tuxbrain.com
> >> > Open ultraportable & embedded solutions
> >> > Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino
> >> > Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 2009/10/19 steven mosher <moshersteven@gmail.com>:
> >> > > Hi david,
> >> > > Did you see this:
> >> > > http://www.qi-hardware.com/2009/10/17/recent-developments/
> >> > > I've got some units in. It took a couple days but we have a browser on the
> >> > > device and wikipedia.
> >> > > It was easy when we just decided to use what the open source community had
> >> > > already created.
> >> > > Looking forward to doing other wikimedia on the device since we have color
> >> > > and audio. drop me a line
> >> > > Steve
> >> > >
> >> > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 12:13 PM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez
> >> > > <david@tuxbrain.com> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> 2009/10/19 Doug Jones <dj6mf@frombob.to>:
> >> > >> > I ordered it a few hours after Sean's announcement.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > It arrived a few minutes ago.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > It works.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > However, I was disappointed that it contained no entry for "Wikireader".
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > ;-)
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Was pleased to see it came with nice alkaline batteries, not those cheap
> >> > >> > carbon ones that eventually fail and destroy the device they came with.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > But instead, I put in a pair of "eneloop" rechargeable NiMH batteries,
> >> > >> > 1.2 volts. Those seem to work just fine.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > It came with an 8GB microSDHC card. 3.2GB free, plenty of room for more
> >> > >> > data.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Next: Figure out how to hack in a extra button at the top level that
> >> > >> > takes us to a custom page where we can link in our own personal
> >> > >> > content...
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > ...and some code to run on my desktop machine, to manage the content of
> >> > >> > these SD cards...
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > ...thanks, guys, there goes another chunk of my copious spare time...
> >> > >> >
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> >> > >> >
> >> > >> envy, a lot of envy :P
> >> > >>
> >> > >> David Reyes Samblas Martinez
> >> > >> http://www.tuxbrain.com
> >> > >> Open ultraportable & embedded solutions
> >> > >> Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino
> >> > >> Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!!
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